Sadgit wrote:
Painkeeper wrote:
3) You need to inflict at least 1 point of damage to apply conditions with a surge, unless specifically stated differently.
The only exception to that general rule is the Stalkers skill Exploit. Here the target would be Weakened even if no damage is dealt in step 5. Interestingly, in this special case the condition is applied to the target in step 4 (spend surges) instead of step 5 (deal damage) of the attack. Thus, Weakened reduces the defense result rolled for the Exploit attack by 1
I'm not sure if I'm reading your post correct, but are you saying that applying Weakened during the attack will trigger Weakened's effect, and Doom doesn't? Because that seems to be the precise opposite of what is said here: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/128661-doom-a...
Got a reply from Nathan Hajek on my question:
"Weakened does not have an affect during the attack it is received because damage has already been calculated (the number of shields has already been removed from the damage rolled).
As has been previously ruled, there is distinction between the timing of damage dealt and damage suffered. After applying shields, any remaining damage is dealt to the hero. At this point, conditions are applied. Any damage dealt is then suffered by the hero. Therefore, Doom does have an affect during the attack in which it is applied."
"Weakened does not have an affect during the attack it is received because damage has already been calculated (the number of shields has already been removed from the damage rolled).
As has been previously ruled, there is distinction between the timing of damage dealt and damage suffered. After applying shields, any remaining damage is dealt to the hero. At this point, conditions are applied. Any damage dealt is then suffered by the hero. Therefore, Doom does have an affect during the attack in which it is applied."
